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	<title>Comments on: PHP wish list &#8211; part 2: reverse combined operators</title>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://ezzatron.com/2008/12/12/php-wish-list-part-2-reverse-combined-operators/comment-page-1/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 05:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This, on the other hand, I could see the use of. 

It does seem like it would cause a lot of heartache and debugging trouble, though. A slip of the fingers could easily lead to a very hard to find divide by zero error.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This, on the other hand, I could see the use of. </p>
<p>It does seem like it would cause a lot of heartache and debugging trouble, though. A slip of the fingers could easily lead to a very hard to find divide by zero error.</p>
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		<title>By: JediLlama</title>
		<link>http://ezzatron.com/2008/12/12/php-wish-list-part-2-reverse-combined-operators/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>JediLlama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure about this. It&#039;s a nice little bit of shorthand, but it&#039;s really just at the expense of readability. Just to save a few keystrokes ;) This is the kind of thing that happened to perl...lots of shortcuts and other tricks turned the language into an unreadable mess...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure about this. It&#8217;s a nice little bit of shorthand, but it&#8217;s really just at the expense of readability. Just to save a few keystrokes <img src='http://ezzatron.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  This is the kind of thing that happened to perl&#8230;lots of shortcuts and other tricks turned the language into an unreadable mess&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: randalflagg.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>randalflagg.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ezzatron » PHP wish list - part 2: reverse combined operators...&lt;/strong&gt;

&quot;It’s time for part 2 of my PHP wish list! In this instalment I’ll detail another feature that I would love to see in PHP: reverse combined operators.&quot;...</description>
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<p>&#8220;It’s time for part 2 of my PHP wish list! In this instalment I’ll detail another feature that I would love to see in PHP: reverse combined operators.&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simplicity is a point to consider, but there&#039;s nothing forcing you to use combined operators or other syntactic sugar either. The choice of simplicity is always in the hands of the developer.

Consider also the fact that people at a skill likely to confuse += with =+ would most likely be using it for integer addition, in which case there is no issue because the result would be the same.

No, actually, I don&#039;t know of any languages that support a similar syntax. Find me one and I&#039;ll try it! :)

I&#039;ve actually never seen anything like the foreachif idea either. Smarty supports a foreachelse which works like an else statement on a foreach loop, and someone came up with another usage for the term foreachif (you&#039;ll find it if you Google) but neither of those are the same concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simplicity is a point to consider, but there&#8217;s nothing forcing you to use combined operators or other syntactic sugar either. The choice of simplicity is always in the hands of the developer.</p>
<p>Consider also the fact that people at a skill likely to confuse += with =+ would most likely be using it for integer addition, in which case there is no issue because the result would be the same.</p>
<p>No, actually, I don&#8217;t know of any languages that support a similar syntax. Find me one and I&#8217;ll try it! <img src='http://ezzatron.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve actually never seen anything like the foreachif idea either. Smarty supports a foreachelse which works like an else statement on a foreach loop, and someone came up with another usage for the term foreachif (you&#8217;ll find it if you Google) but neither of those are the same concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Jones</title>
		<link>http://ezzatron.com/2008/12/12/php-wish-list-part-2-reverse-combined-operators/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I&#039;m torn on this one - I do like what you have done, and it makes sense... But, again, it goes against the principles of simplicity - combined operators obfuscate a teensy amount, and having += and =+ could easily become confusing - but they are very useful.

Do you know of any other languages that use a similar syntax? I&#039;m pretty sure you got the foreachif idea from smarty...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I&#8217;m torn on this one &#8211; I do like what you have done, and it makes sense&#8230; But, again, it goes against the principles of simplicity &#8211; combined operators obfuscate a teensy amount, and having += and =+ could easily become confusing &#8211; but they are very useful.</p>
<p>Do you know of any other languages that use a similar syntax? I&#8217;m pretty sure you got the foreachif idea from smarty&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dmoney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dmoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeh i didn&#039;t understand one single syllable on this page...however i do feel smarter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeh i didn&#8217;t understand one single syllable on this page&#8230;however i do feel smarter&#8230;</p>
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